Got your attention, didn't I? =)
But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but
there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death (which,
let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers die
every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home and
knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
and killing you.
There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear about
on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take silly,
unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety, so
remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
yourself.
Be safe--don't become a statistic.
-- Ryan
First Letterboxing Death.....
14 messages in this thread |
Started on 2005-08-20
First Letterboxing Death.....
From: rscarpen (letterboxing@atlasquest.com) |
Date: 2005-08-20 22:37:54 UTC
RE: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: Jon Russell (jrussell6@wi.rr.com) |
Date: 2005-08-21 00:02:34 UTC-05:00
I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes has some
kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box". I can
think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize hidden above an
abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally) of a
ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and that is
gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on the other.
This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the mend.
We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think about these
experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty results.
Martini Man
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of rscarpen
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
Got your attention, didn't I? =)
But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but
there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death (which,
let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers die
every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home and
knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
and killing you.
There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear about
on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take silly,
unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety, so
remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
yourself.
Be safe--don't become a statistic.
-- Ryan
Yahoo! Groups Links
kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box". I can
think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize hidden above an
abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally) of a
ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and that is
gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on the other.
This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the mend.
We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think about these
experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty results.
Martini Man
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of rscarpen
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
Got your attention, didn't I? =)
But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but
there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death (which,
let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers die
every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home and
knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
and killing you.
There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear about
on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take silly,
unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety, so
remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
yourself.
Be safe--don't become a statistic.
-- Ryan
Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: duncan53211 (duncan53211@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-08-21 15:14:21 UTC
Martini Man,
You forgot to mention "tick infested woods" and "groups of stinging
nettle and poison ivy" on the ridge too!
Dragon
(Humble placer of the Tunnel #3 box, with a plea to be careful out there!)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box". I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize hidden
above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally) of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on the
other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think about
these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death (which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety, so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
You forgot to mention "tick infested woods" and "groups of stinging
nettle and poison ivy" on the ridge too!
Dragon
(Humble placer of the Tunnel #3 box, with a plea to be careful out there!)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box". I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize hidden
above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally) of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on the
other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think about
these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death (which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety, so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: aintnorock19 (cdf19@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-08-21 17:25:19 UTC
Well, my wife and I are newbies, so so far we haven't done anything
*really* stupid, but we sure have learned a few things:
It's always farther than you think (a mile+ hike when you have a
sprained achilles tendon is not a lot of fun.)
It's always hotter than you think. (Why didn't we bring that bottle
of water?)
There's always bugs (why didn't we bring the bug spray?).
And I can't remember, does poison ivy have shiny leaves of three or
not? (where's the tecnu?).
We now have an "official" letterboxing backpack.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box".
I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize
hidden above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and
that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on
the other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the
mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think
about these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another
one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
(which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild
who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little
common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
*really* stupid, but we sure have learned a few things:
It's always farther than you think (a mile+ hike when you have a
sprained achilles tendon is not a lot of fun.)
It's always hotter than you think. (Why didn't we bring that bottle
of water?)
There's always bugs (why didn't we bring the bug spray?).
And I can't remember, does poison ivy have shiny leaves of three or
not? (where's the tecnu?).
We now have an "official" letterboxing backpack.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box".
I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize
hidden above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and
that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on
the other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the
mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think
about these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another
one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
(which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild
who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little
common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: JOY (TeamTexUS@houston.rr.com) |
Date: 2005-08-21 14:44:43 UTC-05:00
poison ivy/oak/sumac rule: leaves of three- let it be
snake rule: red on black, ok for Jack, but red on yellow, kill a fellow
JOY
-------Original Message-------
From: aintnorock19
Date: 08/21/05 12:26:34
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
Well, my wife and I are newbies, so so far we haven't done anything
*really* stupid, but we sure have learned a few things:
It's always farther than you think (a mile+ hike when you have a
sprained achilles tendon is not a lot of fun.)
It's always hotter than you think. (Why didn't we bring that bottle
of water?)
There's always bugs (why didn't we bring the bug spray?).
And I can't remember, does poison ivy have shiny leaves of three or
not? (where's the tecnu?).
We now have an "official" letterboxing backpack.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box".
I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize
hidden above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and
that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on
the other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the
mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think
about these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another
one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
(which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild
who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little
common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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snake rule: red on black, ok for Jack, but red on yellow, kill a fellow
JOY
-------Original Message-------
From: aintnorock19
Date: 08/21/05 12:26:34
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
Well, my wife and I are newbies, so so far we haven't done anything
*really* stupid, but we sure have learned a few things:
It's always farther than you think (a mile+ hike when you have a
sprained achilles tendon is not a lot of fun.)
It's always hotter than you think. (Why didn't we bring that bottle
of water?)
There's always bugs (why didn't we bring the bug spray?).
And I can't remember, does poison ivy have shiny leaves of three or
not? (where's the tecnu?).
We now have an "official" letterboxing backpack.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box".
I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize
hidden above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and
that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on
the other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the
mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think
about these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another
one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
(which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild
who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little
common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "letterbox-usa" on the web.
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RE: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: Kim Calcagno (hannahkat@cox.net) |
Date: 2005-08-21 20:21:35 UTC-04:00
Okay, I apologize in advance, but I must put on my wildlife biologist hat
for a moment -- just to clarify.....
Poison sumac grows in wetlands, is tree-like and has 7+ erect leaflets on
red stems. It doesn't fall into leaves-of-three, let it be rule. Poison oak
is primarily west of the Mississippi river and poison ivy is primarily east
of the Mississippi. They all, however have white/green berries...and all
parts of all three plants can give you the rash...roots, stems, leaves,
flowers, berries....bare stems in mid-winter etc.
The snake rule: Red NEXT to black is a friend of Jack, red NEXT to
yellow -kill a fellow (the coral snake and its mimic, the sinaloan milk
snake and other mimics all have red, yellow and black coloration, but the
placement is key) is only true in North America. In Central and south
america, there are poisonous snakes where red is next to black. Not that
anyone will be searching for boxes in Brazil, but I figured I should clarify
since it's not universally true.
Okay, back to what you were doing.... :-)
Cheers!
-Kim (Rustypuff)
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of JOY
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:45 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
poison ivy/oak/sumac rule: leaves of three- let it be
snake rule: red on black, ok for Jack, but red on yellow, kill a fellow
JOY
-------Original Message-------
From: aintnorock19
Date: 08/21/05 12:26:34
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
Well, my wife and I are newbies, so so far we haven't done anything
*really* stupid, but we sure have learned a few things:
It's always farther than you think (a mile+ hike when you have a
sprained achilles tendon is not a lot of fun.)
It's always hotter than you think. (Why didn't we bring that bottle
of water?)
There's always bugs (why didn't we bring the bug spray?).
And I can't remember, does poison ivy have shiny leaves of three or
not? (where's the tecnu?).
We now have an "official" letterboxing backpack.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box".
I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize
hidden above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and
that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on
the other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the
mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think
about these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another
one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
(which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild
who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little
common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "letterbox-usa" on the web.
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for a moment -- just to clarify.....
Poison sumac grows in wetlands, is tree-like and has 7+ erect leaflets on
red stems. It doesn't fall into leaves-of-three, let it be rule. Poison oak
is primarily west of the Mississippi river and poison ivy is primarily east
of the Mississippi. They all, however have white/green berries...and all
parts of all three plants can give you the rash...roots, stems, leaves,
flowers, berries....bare stems in mid-winter etc.
The snake rule: Red NEXT to black is a friend of Jack, red NEXT to
yellow -kill a fellow (the coral snake and its mimic, the sinaloan milk
snake and other mimics all have red, yellow and black coloration, but the
placement is key) is only true in North America. In Central and south
america, there are poisonous snakes where red is next to black. Not that
anyone will be searching for boxes in Brazil, but I figured I should clarify
since it's not universally true.
Okay, back to what you were doing.... :-)
Cheers!
-Kim (Rustypuff)
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of JOY
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:45 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
poison ivy/oak/sumac rule: leaves of three- let it be
snake rule: red on black, ok for Jack, but red on yellow, kill a fellow
JOY
-------Original Message-------
From: aintnorock19
Date: 08/21/05 12:26:34
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
Well, my wife and I are newbies, so so far we haven't done anything
*really* stupid, but we sure have learned a few things:
It's always farther than you think (a mile+ hike when you have a
sprained achilles tendon is not a lot of fun.)
It's always hotter than you think. (Why didn't we bring that bottle
of water?)
There's always bugs (why didn't we bring the bug spray?).
And I can't remember, does poison ivy have shiny leaves of three or
not? (where's the tecnu?).
We now have an "official" letterboxing backpack.
aintnorock
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
wrote:
> I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
has some
> kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box".
I can
> think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize
hidden above an
> abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
of a
> ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and
that is
> gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on
the other.
> This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the
mend.
>
> We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think
about these
> experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
results.
>
> Martini Man
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-
usa@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rscarpen
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
>
> Got your attention, didn't I? =)
>
> But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another
one
> in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
but
> there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
>
> Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
>
> Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
>
> Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
(which,
> let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
die
> every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
>
> So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild
who
> aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
and
> knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> and killing you.
>
> There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
about
> on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little
common
> sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
silly,
> unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
so
> remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> yourself.
>
> Be safe--don't become a statistic.
>
> -- Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
Visit your group "letterbox-usa" on the web.
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Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: (StDebb@aol.com) |
Date: 2005-08-21 20:31:10 UTC-04:00
My rule about snakes is, "If it's a snake, give it lots of room." That way,
I don't have to worry about whether I can identify the dangerous ones or not!
DebBee
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I don't have to worry about whether I can identify the dangerous ones or not!
DebBee
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Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: rscarpen (letterboxing@atlasquest.com) |
Date: 2005-08-22 05:54:56 UTC
> My rule about snakes is, "If it's a snake, give it lots of room."
> That way, I don't have to worry about whether I can identify the
> dangerous ones or not!
Yeah, that's pretty much my rule about snakes. =) I take it to more of
an extreme level, though, and like to give ANY wild animal lots of
room. It's not even about them being dangerous or anything, but I tend
to feel like I'm just a visitor to their environment and they deserve
the same respect as if I were to visit a person's home. So I prefer to
give all animals a wide berth if I can help it. If an animal reacts to
me, I'm too close.
Snakes and I have a special understanding, though. I leave them alone
if they leave me alone. =)
-- Ryan
> That way, I don't have to worry about whether I can identify the
> dangerous ones or not!
Yeah, that's pretty much my rule about snakes. =) I take it to more of
an extreme level, though, and like to give ANY wild animal lots of
room. It's not even about them being dangerous or anything, but I tend
to feel like I'm just a visitor to their environment and they deserve
the same respect as if I were to visit a person's home. So I prefer to
give all animals a wide berth if I can help it. If an animal reacts to
me, I'm too close.
Snakes and I have a special understanding, though. I leave them alone
if they leave me alone. =)
-- Ryan
Re: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
From: SKJJJK (col.one923@spwl.net) |
Date: 2005-08-22 16:43:30 UTC-05:00
Yes, and also add in three kids under the age of 9! It was the walk on
the wall that worried this mom the most, but after encountering Poison
Ivy this summer, I have new worries. We did it in broad daylight in
Oct. though, so not so buggy. We love the box and are proud to have
it's stamp image in our collection.
The Puddlejumpers
duncan53211 wrote:
> Martini Man,
>
> You forgot to mention "tick infested woods" and "groups of stinging
> nettle and poison ivy" on the ridge too!
>
> Dragon
> (Humble placer of the Tunnel #3 box, with a plea to be careful out
> there!)
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
> wrote:
> > I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
> has some
> > kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box". I
> can
> > think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize hidden
> above an
> > abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
> of a
> > ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and that
> is
> > gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on the
> other.
> > This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the mend.
>
> >
> > We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think about
> these
> > experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
> results.
> >
> > Martini Man
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of rscarpen
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
> >
> > Got your attention, didn't I? =)
> >
> > But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> > heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
>
> > in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
> but
> > there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
> >
> > Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> > letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
> >
> > Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
> >
> > Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
> (which,
> > let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> > EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
> die
> > every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> > letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> > general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
> >
> > So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
>
> > aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> > face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> > accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
> and
> > knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> > and killing you.
> >
> > There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> > short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> > anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
> about
> > on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> > preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
>
> > sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
> silly,
> > unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
> so
> > remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> > yourself.
> >
> > Be safe--don't become a statistic.
> >
> > -- Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
>
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the wall that worried this mom the most, but after encountering Poison
Ivy this summer, I have new worries. We did it in broad daylight in
Oct. though, so not so buggy. We love the box and are proud to have
it's stamp image in our collection.
The Puddlejumpers
duncan53211 wrote:
> Martini Man,
>
> You forgot to mention "tick infested woods" and "groups of stinging
> nettle and poison ivy" on the ridge too!
>
> Dragon
> (Humble placer of the Tunnel #3 box, with a plea to be careful out
> there!)
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Russell"
> wrote:
> > I have to reply to this. I am willing to bet that anyone who boxes
> has some
> > kind of a story about the "stupidest thing I did going for a box". I
> can
> > think of one for sure where we boxed in the dark for a prize hidden
> above an
> > abandoned railroad tunnel while walking along the edge (literally)
> of a
> > ridgeline with an abandoned canal about 15 feet below (fall and that
> is
> > gonna hurt)on one side and a sheer drop to the old rail line on the
> other.
> > This is being done with a spouse who has a broken elbow on the mend.
>
> >
> > We did find the box with no incident. But you sometimes think about
> these
> > experiences and do some "what if" scenarios with very unpretty
> results.
> >
> > Martini Man
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of rscarpen
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:38 PM
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [LbNA] First Letterboxing Death.....
> >
> > Got your attention, didn't I? =)
> >
> > But seriously.... Silent Doug's comment about "These are all
> > heartbreaking stories, and I'd be very happy to not hear another one
>
> > in my lifetime...." I think we can all agree with that sentiment,
> but
> > there is a particularly scary slant to consider:
> >
> > Someone will eventually die while letterboxing. Not BECAUSE of
> > letterboxing, but while letterboxing.
> >
> > Yes, it will happen. Not if, but when.
> >
> > Anything you do that has more than a non-zero chance of death
> (which,
> > let's face it, is anything you do--including doing nothing!) will
> > EVENTUALLY cause a death. It's a number game, essentially. Hikers
> die
> > every year out in the wild. So far, it's never happened to a
> > letterboxer, but there are FAR more hikers than letterboxers in the
> > general public. The numbers just haven't caught up with us--yet.
> >
> > So look at what does kill or seriously injure people in the wild who
>
> > aren't letterboxing, because those are the same issues letterboxers
> > face. Even if you're an urban boxer, there are still risks--car
> > accidents, muggings, drive-by shootings, etc. Just sitting at home
> and
> > knitting puts you at risk of a meteorite shooting through your roof
> > and killing you.
> >
> > There's not much you can do about meteors falling through your roof
> > short of living in an underground bunker (which has its own risks
> > anyhow!), but here's the thing: Most of those incidents you hear
> about
> > on the news--lost hikers, hypothermia, drownings, and such are
> > preventable. Pay attention to your surroundings, use a little common
>
> > sense, don't push yourself past your abilities, and don't take
> silly,
> > unnecessary risks. Nothing is more important than your own safety,
> so
> > remember that first and formost. No letterbox is worth endangering
> > yourself.
> >
> > Be safe--don't become a statistic.
> >
> > -- Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
>
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grill
The great outdoors
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> + Visit your group "letterbox-usa" on the web.
>
> + To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
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Re: First Letterboxing Death.....
From: cadenza74 (jjcadenza@gmail.com) |
Date: 2005-08-24 01:58:31 UTC
You know, I appreciate hearing others talk of safety. I will admit
that I am one of those ones who has pushed limits of how dark it is
or where I was a time or two for the sake of another box, but I've
had some experiences that changed my mind.
I hear people talking about danger on the trail, but my scariest
experiences letterboxing have been in urban areas. I got out in the
middle of Paris, all alone, and as two men were coming up to me and
acting in a very threatening manner, the weight of realization hit
me that I had gone way out of my way in a city where nobody knew me
and with nobody waiting for my return. If I didn't show back up at
my hostel they would have probably thought I just didn't want what
small luggage I had left there. Who knows how long it would have
been before anyone was alerted to look for me. My own family
probably wouldn't have realized something was wrong until long after
damage was done. I had also managed to look for a box that was so
well hidden that anything could have happened and nobody would have
been the wiser. I was terrified.
Really it ended up being a great learning experience for me. I
share it with you all again to remind you that safety is a real
issue--regardless of where we are at. I should have never gone
alone to that spot. What started as a fun adventure quickly became
one of my more frightening moments.
Cadenza
that I am one of those ones who has pushed limits of how dark it is
or where I was a time or two for the sake of another box, but I've
had some experiences that changed my mind.
I hear people talking about danger on the trail, but my scariest
experiences letterboxing have been in urban areas. I got out in the
middle of Paris, all alone, and as two men were coming up to me and
acting in a very threatening manner, the weight of realization hit
me that I had gone way out of my way in a city where nobody knew me
and with nobody waiting for my return. If I didn't show back up at
my hostel they would have probably thought I just didn't want what
small luggage I had left there. Who knows how long it would have
been before anyone was alerted to look for me. My own family
probably wouldn't have realized something was wrong until long after
damage was done. I had also managed to look for a box that was so
well hidden that anything could have happened and nobody would have
been the wiser. I was terrified.
Really it ended up being a great learning experience for me. I
share it with you all again to remind you that safety is a real
issue--regardless of where we are at. I should have never gone
alone to that spot. What started as a fun adventure quickly became
one of my more frightening moments.
Cadenza
Re: [LbNA] Re: First Letterboxing Death.....
From: (davyschris@aol.com) |
Date: 2005-08-23 22:03:51 UTC-04:00
I'm in that much-admonished group of single girls who box alone. I'm not
opposed to going with others (I actually think it's more fun in a group), and in
a perfect world, there would always be someone available to go with whenever I
wanted, but there's not.
So I just try not to do the really long ones by myself. I always bring my
cell phone and plenty of water. And I always leave the woods well before dark.
Chrissy
opposed to going with others (I actually think it's more fun in a group), and in
a perfect world, there would always be someone available to go with whenever I
wanted, but there's not.
So I just try not to do the really long ones by myself. I always bring my
cell phone and plenty of water. And I always leave the woods well before dark.
Chrissy
Re: [LbNA] Re: First Letterboxing Death.....
From: (dragonfly@norwoodlight.com) |
Date: 2005-08-23 22:50:08 UTC-04:00
>I'm in that much-admonished group of single girls who box
>alone.>
Me too, and I will be honest that I love boxing alone, I
also box with my three year old daughter, and believe me,
sometimes i wish I was alone! She is awesome but to big to
put in a back pack, and to young to really enjoy the
hiking.
dragonfly
>alone.>
Me too, and I will be honest that I love boxing alone, I
also box with my three year old daughter, and believe me,
sometimes i wish I was alone! She is awesome but to big to
put in a back pack, and to young to really enjoy the
hiking.
dragonfly
Re: [LbNA] Re: First Letterboxing Death.....
From: (Mwverra@aol.com) |
Date: 2005-08-23 23:31:19 UTC-04:00
I also am a woman who loves to box alone but try and letterbox with my
three-year-old daughter at least every other week because she loves it so much and
I want her to always have an appreciation for the outdoors and want her to
have a sense of adventure. I have limited myself thus far letterboxes that
are in familiar parks and places. The few out-of-state letterboxes I have done
I take a family member.
I am hoping that as my children get older they will want to do the more
adventuresome boxes in the White Mountains and boxes that you have to paddle to
find.
My husband doesn't "get" my passion for letterboxing but he supports me and
has found 4 boxes with me so far.
GlobeBear
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three-year-old daughter at least every other week because she loves it so much and
I want her to always have an appreciation for the outdoors and want her to
have a sense of adventure. I have limited myself thus far letterboxes that
are in familiar parks and places. The few out-of-state letterboxes I have done
I take a family member.
I am hoping that as my children get older they will want to do the more
adventuresome boxes in the White Mountains and boxes that you have to paddle to
find.
My husband doesn't "get" my passion for letterboxing but he supports me and
has found 4 boxes with me so far.
GlobeBear
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[LbNA] Re: First Letterboxing Death.....
From: gwendontoo (foxsecurity@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2005-08-24 04:00:57 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, davyschris@a... wrote:
> I'm in that much-admonished group of single girls who box alone.
I'm not
> opposed to going with others (I actually think it's more fun in a
group), and in
> a perfect world, there would always be someone available to go
with whenever I
> wanted, but there's not.
>
> So I just try not to do the really long ones by myself. I always
bring my
> cell phone and plenty of water. And I always leave the woods well
before dark.
>
> Chrissy
We recently returned from an extended boxing trip and at our last
stop at Twin Lakes, Bridgeport, Ca. there was a posting at a
trailhead we were using regarding an overdue backpacker. From the
description of him, his gear,listing of his route, and other
information it was obvious that this guy was very experienced, had
all of the right stuff and had left a thorough description of his
intended route. The description of his gear was pretty telling as
other hikers were asked to be on the look out for any of his stuff
or pieces of the equipment. He has been overdue since August 8th.
I'm sure this guy had done sufficient backpacking to realize the
consequences of doing it alone.
Ryan has posted at AQ on the Home page a listing for "Code of
Conduct". Under that general heading is several informational topics
and articles regarding security. This should be obligatory reading
for all letterboxers. If you letterbox alone do you understand the
consequences and are you ready to face them? Even if you letterbox
with someone else there is some things you should consider.
Don
> I'm in that much-admonished group of single girls who box alone.
I'm not
> opposed to going with others (I actually think it's more fun in a
group), and in
> a perfect world, there would always be someone available to go
with whenever I
> wanted, but there's not.
>
> So I just try not to do the really long ones by myself. I always
bring my
> cell phone and plenty of water. And I always leave the woods well
before dark.
>
> Chrissy
We recently returned from an extended boxing trip and at our last
stop at Twin Lakes, Bridgeport, Ca. there was a posting at a
trailhead we were using regarding an overdue backpacker. From the
description of him, his gear,listing of his route, and other
information it was obvious that this guy was very experienced, had
all of the right stuff and had left a thorough description of his
intended route. The description of his gear was pretty telling as
other hikers were asked to be on the look out for any of his stuff
or pieces of the equipment. He has been overdue since August 8th.
I'm sure this guy had done sufficient backpacking to realize the
consequences of doing it alone.
Ryan has posted at AQ on the Home page a listing for "Code of
Conduct". Under that general heading is several informational topics
and articles regarding security. This should be obligatory reading
for all letterboxers. If you letterbox alone do you understand the
consequences and are you ready to face them? Even if you letterbox
with someone else there is some things you should consider.
Don